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Eric, For what it's worth, most serious students ...

2009-07-11T18:09:29.066-07:00

Eric,

For what it's worth, most serious students of the evilarchy view Turner as an obvious Fed.

Anonymous said: "At the border station, they are b...

2009-07-11T12:42:21.820-07:00

Anonymous said: "At the border station, they are being searched by custom officers because their suitcase is not protected by diplomat status."

There is one report about the couriers having diplomatic passports. There is no report about the persons being accredited diplomats! A diplomatic passport does not grant diplomatic immunity! To gain immunity you need to be accredited by your own government. That's an important difference.

For luggage to gain immunity as a "diplomatic bag" it needs to be declared accordingly.

The basic story does not make any sense. Here are ...

2009-07-11T08:27:25.019-07:00

The basic story does not make any sense. Here are the alleged facts:

Japan, a country of 120 million, owns US Treasury paper with total value in excess of $700 billion.

In order to escape the (rumored) coming Dollar devaluation, Japan decides to upload a substantial part ($134 billion or 20%) of that holding on Switzerland, a small country with a population as large as Manhattan (7 million).

To execute this plan, they send two Filipinos with a Japanese passport to Italy. The treasury paper (worth $134 billion) is hidden in a regular suitcase which the two Japanese carry on board of a train traveling from Italy to Switzerland.

At the border station, they are being searched by custom officers because their suitcase is not protected by diplomat status.

This does not make any sense whatsoever. Ask yourself: How did the Japanese got hold of that US Treasury paper in the first place? Did they send two Japanese couriers to the US Treasury Dept which handed them over the paper, which they than hid in a suitcase aboard of a Japanese airliner on the way to Tokyo?

No way. When Charles de Gaulle decided to exchange a few hundred million US Dollars into Gold in the 1960's, he send two French Navy destroyers to New York City in order to collect the gold. And the Japanese, in order to collect an amount one thousand times as large as the French forty years ago, send two tourists using a suitcase on a regular train?

This is all total nonsense!

By posting photos and addresses of the federal jud...

2009-07-11T07:57:05.308-07:00

By posting photos and addresses of the federal judges (as reported by CNN), Mr. Turner crossed the line. Authorities are on solid legal footing, and Mr. Turner's rage got the better of him. Whether or not he had inside information as to the authenticity of the bonds in question, no one knows for sure.

This whole affair seems surreal, and the notion of trying to fence 139 billion dollars worth of phony bonds seems silly. How many stupid billionaires are there anyway?

To the previou Anonymous about Hal Turner, of cour...

2009-07-11T06:42:50.625-07:00

To the previou Anonymous about Hal Turner, of course he utilizes his verbal statements constantly, but he is proving a point from time to time about politics, the economy, etc. These people, organizations, and companies that are publicly discussing or taken action are making an impact to create some form of questioning and action against these illegal means.

Whether Hal Turner is a nut or not, is irrelevant....

2009-07-11T05:45:04.138-07:00

Whether Hal Turner is a nut or not, is irrelevant. His case is important to all of us because it boils down to the first amendment rights. If you REALLY take a look at what he wrote, you will notice that it is protected free speech. There is a big difference between saying "judges deserve to be killed", and "kill them!".

The family has a blog, where one can follow his case.

http://family-of-hal-turner.blogspot.com/

I'd like to point out another detail: Diplomatic b...

2009-07-11T04:21:26.671-07:00

I'd like to point out another detail: Diplomatic bags.

A government intends to transport documents into a foreign country. The safest way is to place them in a diplomatic bag, most likely a suitcase. Carried by an accredited diplomat, foreign countries or customs officials must not inspect that bag.

If any government wanted to transfer those confiscated bonds/notes why didn't it use safe diplomatic channels to enter Switzerland?

If the sender of the confiscated bonds were a government, why didn't they use a diplomatic bag?

It's real for sure. http://benjaminfulford.typep...

2009-07-11T03:00:22.044-07:00

It's real for sure.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2009/07/%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%81%A7%E9%80%AE%E6%8D%95%E3%81%95%E3%82%8C%E3%81%9F%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E4%BA%BA%E3%81%AF%EF%BD%86%EF%BD%92%EF%BD%82%E8%AD%B0%E9%95%B7%E3%81%AA%E3%81%A9%E3%81%AE%E6%9B%B8%E9%A1%9E%E3%82%92%E6%8C%81%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%81%9F-1.html

"The Japanese arrested with $134.5 billion had papers signed by Bernanke, and Greenspan:　With corrections and additions

The two "Japanese" ( actually both were Filipinos ) arrested in Italy recently reportedly with $134.5 billion worth of F.R.N. s, ( THE AMOUNT WAS IN FACT SOME FIVE HUNDRED BILLION IN CERTIFICATES ) were also carrying a series of documents signed by the likes of Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke with federal reserve logos and stamps embossed, signed and witnessed .　The two were released after proving their credentials, and were released because they were carrying genuine diplomatic passports. The Pictures of the documents they carried are attached and we would like to hear some expert opinion on their contents (somebody is preventing us from uploading more than one picture).

According to the official story put out to the corporate media, the Treasuries were forgeries (no doubt they will say the same about the documents pictured here) but if that is the case, why were the people carrying the “forgeries” immediately released, by extreme persons in high places in Italy, who had the power to silence Prime Minister Belosconi ?

The truth is the Treasury certificates they carried were legitimate and are now in the safe hands of a new financial system. The instruments will be used to finance part of a Program at ending war, poverty and environmental destruction. It will also be used to develop previously forbidden technology. We may see some visible changes as early as next week as they carry out the new banking paradigms being incorporated, but, not with out resistance from the old abusive Wall street guard .

Bernanke’s latest check has bounced but, as mentioned before, things will drag on to the September 30 secret fiscal year end then all hell will break out as the financial world, takes a ninety degree down-turn . The information above comes from very highly placed sources.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef011570f60dd3970c-pi

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I think Turner deserves it 100& because he publish...

2009-07-10T19:56:57.741-07:00

I think Turner deserves it 100& because he published personal information along with the statement. He was inciting someone to kill these judges.

Had he not published home addresses, I'd say leave him alone. But he crossed the line and clearly intended action, even if he was too much of a ***** to do it himself.

Anonymous said... Hal Turner is a nut who think i...

2009-07-10T17:00:19.655-07:00

Anonymous said...
Hal Turner is a nut who think it is great to kill people who do not agree with his world view.
I would stay away from him, your credibility will suffer.

Let's be perfectly clear: I am not, in any way, defending Hal Turner's world view.

I am suggesting that his arrest, based on the evidence released so far, seems strange and unwarrented (as far as I know, saying someone deserves to die isn't a crime).

Or do you think it is ok to throw people in jail without bail because they don't agree with mainstream world views?

Keating Willcox said...
Hal Turner is engaging in speech which if against the President and some other officials is an actionable crime. I remember a bright bulb writing a threatening email to the White House, from his home email address.

Even if there isn't a direct threat?

I am certain that, while Bush was president, I remember reading on blogs/message boards thousands of comments like "Bush deserves to die" or "Bush should go to hell." Were all of these comments (and there were a lot of them) actionable crimes?

I am no legal expert, but there must be a difference Between 'They Should Die' (an incitement) and 'I'll Kill You' (a threat).

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By the way, AIG is planning another round of bonuses (hundreds of millions) for their "brilliant" employees, so I think we are soon going to see more very angry comments on message boards...

Hal Turner is engaging in speech which if against ...

2009-07-10T14:46:10.670-07:00

Hal Turner is engaging in speech which if against the President and some other officials is an actionable crime. I remember a bright bulb writing a threatening email to the White House, from his home email address. But, no bail, maybe there is something to this? Just the idea that someone is trying to ditch 1/6 of a Trillion dollars is very scary, whether or not the paper is real. I thought all that stuff was done by Brinks.

Hal Turner is a nut who think it is great to kill ...

2009-07-10T14:16:17.408-07:00

Hal Turner is a nut who think it is great to kill people who do not agree with his world view.
I would stay away from him, your credibility will suffer.

'... which in the June 4 statement, the GdF termed...

2009-07-10T13:48:14.587-07:00

'... which in the June 4 statement, the GdF termed "Kennedy Bonds” with photos provided.'

Can anyone supply a link to the statement and/or those photos?